What do straight people have to DO to get thrown out of the military?

by CynthiaYockey on November 9, 2009

Let me see if I have this right. To get thrown out of the military, all a gay or lesbian has to do is say, “I’m gay,” any time, anywhere, and out they go. Why, it’s as easy as a traditional Muslim divorce! Or, an envious rival just has to say someone else is gay — and despite the “no tell” provision of “don’t ask, don’t tell” — there are oodles of incentives for telling and no punishment at all. And, poof! Their homosexual rival is out of the military!

But a straight man — a doctor — not just any old doctor, a psychiatrist — gives a lecture to OTHER DOCTORS on the Koran — when they were expecting a lecture on a medical topic — and he is not so much as written up for saying the following things:

  1. Non-believers [in Islam] should be beheaded and boiling oil poured down their throats (presumably in that order).
  2. Non-Muslims are infidels who should be set on fire
  3. “I am a Muslim first and an American second.”

Oh, and he didn’t do this at an isolated outpost. No. He did this at WALTER REED HOSPITAL in Washington, D.C., one of the most prestigious military hospitals in the world.

So — the military has no qualms at all about enforcing discriminatory religious attitudes towards homosexuals — feels righteous, even.

But for straight people, including those who openly say they are religiously commanded to kill everyone around them who is not the same religion, to separate them from the military would be discrimination and discrimination is anathema!:

One Army doctor who knew him said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim soldier had stopped fellow officers from filing formal complaints.

Michelle Malkin asks why we have to read English newspapers to find out what Nidal Hasan was raving to his colleagues in the run-up to his murderous rampage at Ft. Hood. Allahpundit is calling for Congressional hearings into how the Army missed the warning signs that Hasan was a ticking time bomb — but I am more cynical and expect that if any such hearings are convened they will be for the purpose of punishing a scapegoat while whitewashing the realities of Islamic extremism and shifting the blame for Hasan’s actions onto any explanation other than the commands of the Koran to kill unbelievers.

Peter at Shakey Pete’s Shootin’ Shack claims in a comment that if the military allows gays and lesbians to serve openly, enlistments will fall because not enough straight people will want to serve with homosexuals. I don’t believe it. I think people under 30 have had plenty of exposure to gays and lesbians and won’t have the prejudices that older people had when homosexuals seemed rare and outlandish because most of us were in the closet.

No, I think if you really want to get kids to refuse to enlist in the military or enroll in ROTC these post Ft. Hood massacre days, just remind them that they will be required to serve with Muslims, each and every one of whom is religiously required to kill non-Muslims AND to pretend they won’t until they do, which makes it SO much harder to tell the moderates from the murderers.

Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick ….

Update, 11/09/09, Mon.: Welcome, readers of Stray Dogs that Amble In — I recommend my readers go check SYD’s post for links that explain Islam more and her rejection of the excuse of “compassion fatigue” for Hasan’s terrorist shooting rampage. Frankly, since he attended the same mosque as some of the 9/11 terrorists, I’m expecting that if all the facts are ever made known, he was recruited by extremists at the mosque and groomed to commit an act of terrorism since his position in the military would give him access to weapons and large groups of service members to kill.

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SYD November 9, 2009 at 8:08 am

Linking you today.

Good blog entry!

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richard mcenroe November 9, 2009 at 9:47 am

Cynthia, this is not a gay/straight thing. This is a religious/racial thing.

I saw a white officer trash his career in the service by referring to the largely black and Hispanic troops under his command as
“C.H.U.D.”s, after the cannibal subterranean mutants from a cheap Roger Corman movie… and rightly, given the context in which he meant it and his really bad judgment in repeating it several times in front of superior officers.

I saw another officer make a career-ending move when he launched a simultaneous frontal attack on both flanks of a stripper at the old I-Bar under the Fort Benning officers’ club, in the middle of her show.

But Hasan put ‘Palestinian’ down on his enlistment records and ‘Muslim’ as his religion, and as Army Chief of Staff General Casey says, diversity in the military “gives us strength.” And no one had the nerve to complain
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Cynthia Yockey November 9, 2009 at 12:20 pm

richard mcenroe,

I linked Hasan’s form in an earlier post — he did not list his religion.

MY point is that if the military already embraces diversity to the point where it allows non-citizens to get the path to citizenship to serve, and it allows Muslims who are commanded to deceive — look up taqiyya — and kill unbelievers, and it is already a mix of races and religions, then there is just absolutely no reason not to allow homosexuals to serve while acknowledging their sexual orientation and observing the same rules of decorum about it as everyone else.


Stinky November 9, 2009 at 10:08 am

I don’t think your question is right on point – a straight, white, Christian male can get thrown out pretty easily. Granted, not for saying “I’m straight!”

I think the question should be more like this: why, in this age of supposed tolerance about sexuality, can a loyal, competent person be thrown out of the military for being gay, BUT incompetent, unbalanced Muslims are not? (Ex. Nidal Hassan) Or incompetent, black Muslims with criminal histories are not? (Ex. the Beltway sniper)? Or incompetent WOMEN? (Ex. the female general in charge of Abu Graib, who whined and passed the buck?)

Political correctness, that’s why. And I have to ask myself why a variety of women, muslims, and blacks get so many passes when they are documented (in the examples I cited) to be incompetent, unbalanced, or traitorous, yet gays do not. Simply for being gay.

Peter November 9, 2009 at 11:44 am

Cynthia, I must not be making myself clear. At no time did I say that if we end DADT enlistments WOULD dry up. I said they might. I said we should put together a big enough outfit to test the theory. Or is it a hypothisis? I sometimes get confused with those scientifical terms.

An Army Division is pretty big and has people from all the Combat Arms and the Service Branches organic to it. The Navy and the Air Force have comparable sized units.

I shall repeat myself here.There is nobody in the country that knows the kids signing up for todays military well enough to know how they’d react. They’re the kids that don’t stay in college, either they don’t have the money or they get there and don’t fit in. Those kids don’t come from your world, Cyn. They are as smart as anybody else but they aren’t sophisticated. At least not yet. They will be, though.

We can’t even poll them, the disease of political correctness means that people lie. Plus, of course, pollsters are only about half as honest as used car salesmen.

I would love for you to be right, but, what if you are wrong?

Cynthia Yockey November 9, 2009 at 12:32 pm


There are plenty of gay and lesbian kids in the world they are in, believe me. In fact, gay and lesbian kids are probably over-represented in their world due to the number of parents who throw away their gay teenagers because their religion/narcissism commands them to do so (in their sick interpretation of it, anyway).

Our military volunteers are required to cope with an enormous amount of diversity already. Homosexuals are not going to be the feather boa that breaks the camel’s back.

Seriously — Colin Powell would not support the abolition of DADT if it would weaken the military.

I have to add that my father ALWAYS laughs when DADT comes up and says the same thing each time, “Alexander conquered the world with an army full of gays.” Which brings up that homosexuals serve openly in the Israeli and British armies.

How many soldiers will die because Arabic interpreter Lt. Dan Choi was thrown out for being gay and was not available for crucial interrogations?

We can do this, Peter.


Attmay November 9, 2009 at 12:00 pm

I am really getting fed up with the leftist assertion that pointing out the institutionalized anti-semitism, misogyny and homophobia of Islam constitutes “racism.” First of all, Islam is not a race. Second of all, Koran 2:191 commands its followers to slay the nonbeliever.

I am also sick of the “but what about Christians and Jews” dodge. When was the last time a Jew performed a ritual slaughter. And as this article pointed out:


Christianity and Judaism have changed to accommodate human rights. Remember the Western Enlightenment? There is no Middle Eastern equivalent.

Stinky November 9, 2009 at 1:46 pm
richard mcenroe November 9, 2009 at 3:47 pm

Cynthia, I’m well aware that there are gays in the military. I had an outstanding NCO in one of my units who was gay and there was no way in hell I was going to out him as long as he kept his behavior in the unit within regulations. Particularly after a couple of my fellow butterbars in IOBC thought they had to try to “out” _me._ (Have to tell that story sometime.)

I’m skeptical myself that DADT is necessary or effective. The old saw about never giving an order you know won’t be obeyed comes to mind. I don’t think ‘Just Jack!’ and Harvey Firestein are going to run off to join the Airborne if we do away with it, but gays who want to enlist are going to enlist anyway. There are and always have been regulations against homosexual practices detrimental to good order and discipline. balanced now by equivalent regulations governing hetero relationships now that we have more mixed-gender units.

But DADT was a bad idea itself, a political toy put forward to placate a voting bloc. I mean, tell the services not to check for something there’s no test for anyway? But I’d be surprised not to find out a lot of the currently serving gays don’t want open gays in the service. Gavin Newsom’s “Whether you like it or not” could make things real crowded real fast in a bunker or berthing compartment…

Also, I acknowledge your correction about Hasan not putting down his religion on the form you reference. But there doesn’t seem to have been a whole lot of secrecy about it, considering all the agencies who were looking at him without taking action…
.-= richard mcenroe´s last blog ..USS New York Commissioning Ceremony… =-.

Stogie November 9, 2009 at 10:15 pm

What can a straight guy do to get kicked out of the Army?

Simple, turn gay!

Hee hee hee ha ha ha, sorry I couldn’t resist.

I’ll take gays any day over Muslims.
.-= Stogie´s last blog ..Anti-Castro Cuban Blogger Arrested, Beaten and Released =-.

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