About Joy’s advice on how to talk to the now-undecided voter who supported Obama in 2008

by CynthiaYockey on March 26, 2012

Over at the Conservative Commune, Joy McCann has an excellent post on “How to talk to the undecided voter” who voted for Obama in 2008. I recommend reading it. This is the group that is unhappy with the current economy and unemployment rates — especially if their own unemployment rate is 100 percent — but which does not follow political news closely, believes the mainstream media are fair watchdogs rather than unscrupulous propagandists, and has no economic or political philosophy to guide them in their choice of party or candidates. Due to their own honesty and idealism, they feel secure voting for the candidate making the best offer because, ahem, why would he or she lie? Wouldn’t the media catch them?

(Note to any liberals who have wandered in: in 2008, Pravda was mocking the U.S. press for its bias in favor of Obama. Pravda.)

The group to whom Obama promised the most and has delivered the least is lesbians and gays. They may be a harbinger of the behavior of the disappointed Obama 2008 voter in 2012. Judging from the comments on “Obama Advisers Reportedly Debating Gay Marriage,” by John Aravosis, which I recommend you read, gays finally have started to track Obama’s promises and they have noticed they don’t match what he actually delivers. As a result, they are refusing to donate and volunteer for Obama this time around — some are threatening to stay home on election day. So the point I would add to the discussion is that we need to be making lists of when Obama said one thing and did another.

Note to John Aravosis:

  1. Gays are voting for Romney in the belief he will govern as a fiscal conservative and the hope that his social conservative policies will fail. We do not believe Romney is a closet social liberal. We are concerned that he is a closet fiscal liberal and we consider this a bug, not a feature. You really need to get a better grip on the philosophies underlying fiscal conservatism and social conservatism.
  2. What Republicans are saying Obama supports gay marriage? Because all the ones I know like to rub it in that he doesn’t.
  3. Democratic gays and lesbians belong to a party that, in 2012, does not support their equality and has the gall to pose as vacillating instead in order to string them along and keep their money, volunteer labor and votes. The gay community only thrives because it embodies fiscal conservative values of self-reliance and entrepreneurship. If you REALLY want to throw a scare into the Democrats and have some leverage, start making a show of listening to conservative lesbians and gays so they understand you have an alternative and you’re considering it.

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  • zendodeb

    The Santorium branch of Republicans are just plain scary. To anyone who isn’t in lockstep with their ideological stance. It is pushing the party in the wrong direction. The issue is the economy. As long as its not, Obama has a chance of winning.

    • Liz

      Santorum scares the living daylights out of me. He has no conception of ltd govt. His only objection to the current crop of authoritarians is that they’re aiming their interference in what he regards as the wrong targets.

      If he’s the nominee, I’m voting for the Libertarian Party. Gary Johnson is my favorite candidate anyway.

  • Liz

    What I just can’t understand about Obamatrons is how many of them genuinely, on a stack of Bibles, swear to g-d, truly-honestly-pinky swear believe that he does, in fact support marriage equality.

    It’s a very important issue to them, but they think he’s lying about *not* supporting it.  How can you break that level of delusion? Other than pointing out that they’re supporting a guy *because* they think he’s a liar.

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