I glanced through the thread — it is very long and would take all day to digest and answer, but it would still be a tar baby. However, Jim did not understand my father’s work showing why self-organization scenarios are invalid and must be discarded. The purpose of that was to show scientists that self-organization scenarios were based on faith, even if it is a secular one, and since science is not about faith, they must be discarded. My father, Hubert P. Yockey, has worked to get faith of every description and origin OUT of science, which is about “counting and measuring,” as he quotes Socrates.

The reason to get anthropomorphic global warming and Intelligent Design and Creationism out of every classroom is that they are based on faith, and, in fact, are dogmas.

Ben Stein is wrong in his documentary “Expelled.” ANYONE who teaches Intelligent Design anywhere but in a religion class and AS anything but religion DESERVES to be fired. It is exactly the same as teaching the Earth is the center of the universe because that is the dogma of your religion.

Also, what my father demonstrates is why the origin of life is UNKNOWABLE by any method and that THAT is what should be taught in schools and universities. The origin of life is an axiom of biology, just as the origin of matter is an axiom of physics and chemistry — points Darwin made in his landmark work, Origin of Species.

And now I have to make my father’s breakfast.

Cynthia

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It is rather obvious. And nothing I have seen before. Leave a note at my blog if you reply. Any post.
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Thanks for that. It hasn’t changed my inclination as the most likely explanation but that is just a hunch. As you point out we have proof of nothing in regards to origins.

As to the invention. Like all “first artifacts” it was just a matter of being at the right place at the right time and knowing the need along with the appropriate information. My intention was to use it to control machinery. I thought the BBS guys were nuts. Which just goes to show you that it was not part of some big vision. Just luck. But as you know fortune favors the prepared.
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In that case, the reason why the origin of life is unknowable is stated in the Central Dogma — information can only flow back and forth between alphabets of the same number of characters, and flows from alphabets of a greater number of characters to an alphabet of a smaller number of characters but it is impossible to look back from the smaller alphabet due to the inaccuracy inherent in several-to-one codes. Information can go back and forth between DNA and RNA because both have 64 codons, but there is a several-to-one code from the 64 codons of RNA to the 20 amino acids of protein. So for some amino acids, any one of several RNA codons could have called it into the protein sequence — it is impossible to know which one.

For an analogy, if you throw two dice and you know the result is “7,” if all you know is “7″ and you need to know what combination of the dice produced it, you can only guess — there is no procedure for correctly determining the origin of “7.” It is unknowable. Ditto for the origin of life — it is impossible to come up with a procedure for knowing exactly which one from the “several” (RNA codons) in a several-to-one code coded for the “one” (an amino acid) — it is unknowable.

Cynthia

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That great about the board you invented!

My father’s papers on both the chance and self-organization scenarios gave them favorable conditions, then calculated their probability, which came out so close to zero as to be as good as zero in the time allowed between the origin of the universe and the origin of life on Earth, which is approximately 4.5 billion years. This is why he maintains, and I agree, that acceptance of either the chance and self-organization scenarios can only be maintained on the basis of faith. My father wants science to clear the decks of all origin of life scenarios based on faith and he has shown why we now know the origin of life is unknowable by any method. Why the origin of life is unknowable is what we should be teaching about it in schools.

Cynthia

I’d be interested in why your father did not care for that explanation. The short version will do as I can not afford the book.
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I’m a very lucky man.

May I add that I was a very early adopter of LGF – sent there by Andrew Sullivan about 6 months post 9/11. What goes on at LGF these days is quite sad.
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