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	<title>Comments on: Did an undiagnosed and untreated sleep disorder kill Michael Jackson?</title>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
		<link>http://aconservativelesbian.com/2009/07/02/did-an-undiagnosed-and-untreated-sleep-disorder-kill-michael-jackson/#comment-1177</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>West,
   Unfortunately, CPAP machines are the only known way to treat obstructive sleep apnea/hypopnea.  If you have this condition, then OF COURSE they would sell you one.  It&#039;s the only known treatment modality, other than having your spouse kick you awake every time you stop breathing(the oldest known treatment)  Just because you couldn&#039;t make it work for you, does NOT mean it&#039;s a hoax, or some sort of con-job.  I deal with sleep apnea patients every day(I&#039;m an anesthesiologist) and many people report having to try literally dozens of different masks to find one that will work for them, which is why we always tell sleep apnea patients to bring their own equipement with them when they are to have surgery.  Sleep apnea patients are often so sleep deprived that even a small amount of sedative has a very strong effect, and they may still be obstructing hours after the anesthetics should have worn off.   Keep trying different masks.  there are hundreds of styles to choose from.  You&#039;ll eventually find one, and when you do, you&#039;ll be glad you did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>West,<br />
   Unfortunately, CPAP machines are the only known way to treat obstructive sleep apnea/hypopnea.  If you have this condition, then OF COURSE they would sell you one.  It&#8217;s the only known treatment modality, other than having your spouse kick you awake every time you stop breathing(the oldest known treatment)  Just because you couldn&#8217;t make it work for you, does NOT mean it&#8217;s a hoax, or some sort of con-job.  I deal with sleep apnea patients every day(I&#8217;m an anesthesiologist) and many people report having to try literally dozens of different masks to find one that will work for them, which is why we always tell sleep apnea patients to bring their own equipement with them when they are to have surgery.  Sleep apnea patients are often so sleep deprived that even a small amount of sedative has a very strong effect, and they may still be obstructing hours after the anesthetics should have worn off.   Keep trying different masks.  there are hundreds of styles to choose from.  You&#8217;ll eventually find one, and when you do, you&#8217;ll be glad you did.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Yockey</title>
		<link>http://aconservativelesbian.com/2009/07/02/did-an-undiagnosed-and-untreated-sleep-disorder-kill-michael-jackson/#comment-1176</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia Yockey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>West,

The attitude that people are only out to cheat you means that you will only consider evidence supporting your pre-conceived conclusion that you will always be cheated.

Also, what&#039;s up with not seeing the sleep specialist to discuss your sleep study results? Start Googling about the Stage 4 sleep problem to educate yourself, then see the doctor who has the sleep study results -- the DOCTOR. It sounds like you didn&#039;t get properly diagnosed, which is not surprising since you did not get to go over the test results with the sleep specialist. The way our medical system works, it is up to you to keep trying until you are correctly diagnosed and treated. Until around the 1980&#039;s, doctors would push on your behalf because they were not restricted about making referrals. Now it&#039;s all on you. This sucks because you have to advocate for yourself when you don&#039;t feel well and find your way to the right doctors when you don&#039;t understand the system. But that&#039;s how it works now.

Sleep doctors and sleep centers, as far as I know, are financially separate from the durable medical equipment providers who sell respirators and masks. So sleep centers do not exist to sell CPAP machines.

Keep trying and good luck.

Cynthia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>West,</p>
<p>The attitude that people are only out to cheat you means that you will only consider evidence supporting your pre-conceived conclusion that you will always be cheated.</p>
<p>Also, what&#8217;s up with not seeing the sleep specialist to discuss your sleep study results? Start Googling about the Stage 4 sleep problem to educate yourself, then see the doctor who has the sleep study results &#8212; the DOCTOR. It sounds like you didn&#8217;t get properly diagnosed, which is not surprising since you did not get to go over the test results with the sleep specialist. The way our medical system works, it is up to you to keep trying until you are correctly diagnosed and treated. Until around the 1980&#8242;s, doctors would push on your behalf because they were not restricted about making referrals. Now it&#8217;s all on you. This sucks because you have to advocate for yourself when you don&#8217;t feel well and find your way to the right doctors when you don&#8217;t understand the system. But that&#8217;s how it works now.</p>
<p>Sleep doctors and sleep centers, as far as I know, are financially separate from the durable medical equipment providers who sell respirators and masks. So sleep centers do not exist to sell CPAP machines.</p>
<p>Keep trying and good luck.</p>
<p>Cynthia</p>
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		<title>By: West</title>
		<link>http://aconservativelesbian.com/2009/07/02/did-an-undiagnosed-and-untreated-sleep-disorder-kill-michael-jackson/#comment-1175</link>
		<dc:creator>West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, a sleep study would have saved his life. Sure.

I went to a sleep center and despite the fact that my blood oxygen never fell below 90%, I was diagnosed with Hypopnea. That&#039;s Apnea Lite, or down-defined apnea for the purpose of moving more CPAP machines. I never even met the doctor. The machine was useless, despite 3 months of concentrated attempts to use it,  several masks, yadda yadda.
 I do have a sleep problem, but is seemingly to obscure for a &#039;sleep specialist&#039; to diagnose, since prescribing a machine has such a nice profit margin (I was sold a $750 machine for $2200) and is much easier for everyone involved - except me.  No one had any explanation of my complete lack of stage 4 sleep.

Sleep centers are nothing more than apnea mills existing solely for the purpose of moving CPAP machines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, a sleep study would have saved his life. Sure.</p>
<p>I went to a sleep center and despite the fact that my blood oxygen never fell below 90%, I was diagnosed with Hypopnea. That&#8217;s Apnea Lite, or down-defined apnea for the purpose of moving more CPAP machines. I never even met the doctor. The machine was useless, despite 3 months of concentrated attempts to use it,  several masks, yadda yadda.<br />
 I do have a sleep problem, but is seemingly to obscure for a &#8216;sleep specialist&#8217; to diagnose, since prescribing a machine has such a nice profit margin (I was sold a $750 machine for $2200) and is much easier for everyone involved &#8211; except me.  No one had any explanation of my complete lack of stage 4 sleep.</p>
<p>Sleep centers are nothing more than apnea mills existing solely for the purpose of moving CPAP machines.</p>
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		<title>By: silvermine</title>
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		<dc:creator>silvermine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how many life-altering diseases are out there that no one ever tests for.

My husband used to drink 2 pots of coffee a day. Finally he referred himself to a sleep specialist and found out that his oxygen level was sometimes under 80% at night. (The sleep doctor rushed a CPAP to him.)

I suffered with all sorts of sinus infections, headaches, exhaustion, and IBS for over a decade. One day I stopped eaten gluten. Three days later I felt better than I had in over 10 years. My life was hell. I was too tired to clean, my head was always burning pain. I was probably destroying my liver with non-stop advil.

Crazy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how many life-altering diseases are out there that no one ever tests for.</p>
<p>My husband used to drink 2 pots of coffee a day. Finally he referred himself to a sleep specialist and found out that his oxygen level was sometimes under 80% at night. (The sleep doctor rushed a CPAP to him.)</p>
<p>I suffered with all sorts of sinus infections, headaches, exhaustion, and IBS for over a decade. One day I stopped eaten gluten. Three days later I felt better than I had in over 10 years. My life was hell. I was too tired to clean, my head was always burning pain. I was probably destroying my liver with non-stop advil.</p>
<p>Crazy.<br />
.-= silvermine&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://franklinsvirtues.blogspot.com/2009/03/voting-by-shopping.html" rel="nofollow">Voting By Shopping</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Yockey, why do you know MJ did not get referred to a sleep specialist? The confidentiality rules prevent us from knowing if he was or wasn&#039;t.

 Jackson was a celeb. He had the usual batch of hangers on, including some Doc. How many of those hangers on were more interested in their cash cow than on his well being? Death by being a celeb is pretty common, common enough that I&#039;m glad I spent my life working  in an ordinary job, retiring to a poor but comfortable life with the dogs, a too-rare visit with the grandkids and playing with the dogs. We&#039;d planned on travelling some but we didn&#039;t plan on what the idiots in Congress did with our money. So it&#039;s a big day when we go to the supermarket .
 Anyway, back to Jackson. He spent more money paying families of young boys to settle out of court than most people will ever see.  Sooner or later he would have been hauled before a jury that wasn&#039;t from California.  So he died before the degradtion of going to the slam as a baby raper.  There were lots of people dying right around then that may not advance your sleep specialist cause but certainly deserve more in print.
 Farrah Fawcett who spent a lot of her own money to help battered women. Ed McMahon, Marine pilot. He rose to Colonel in the Marine Corps Reserve and flew scads of missions during the Korean War in an unarmed Cessna Bird Dog, low and slow over the battlefield , within range of everything more powerful than a slingshot.
 Not to mention the heros slaughtered in Iran, trying for democracy. Funny, that&#039;s just what George Bush said would happen, too bad the new President doesn&#039;t believe in supporting freedom.

 Oh well, here I am, writing a book on your site while ignoring mine. Lucky thing nobody ever accused me of being too smart.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Yockey, why do you know MJ did not get referred to a sleep specialist? The confidentiality rules prevent us from knowing if he was or wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p> Jackson was a celeb. He had the usual batch of hangers on, including some Doc. How many of those hangers on were more interested in their cash cow than on his well being? Death by being a celeb is pretty common, common enough that I&#8217;m glad I spent my life working  in an ordinary job, retiring to a poor but comfortable life with the dogs, a too-rare visit with the grandkids and playing with the dogs. We&#8217;d planned on travelling some but we didn&#8217;t plan on what the idiots in Congress did with our money. So it&#8217;s a big day when we go to the supermarket .<br />
 Anyway, back to Jackson. He spent more money paying families of young boys to settle out of court than most people will ever see.  Sooner or later he would have been hauled before a jury that wasn&#8217;t from California.  So he died before the degradtion of going to the slam as a baby raper.  There were lots of people dying right around then that may not advance your sleep specialist cause but certainly deserve more in print.<br />
 Farrah Fawcett who spent a lot of her own money to help battered women. Ed McMahon, Marine pilot. He rose to Colonel in the Marine Corps Reserve and flew scads of missions during the Korean War in an unarmed Cessna Bird Dog, low and slow over the battlefield , within range of everything more powerful than a slingshot.<br />
 Not to mention the heros slaughtered in Iran, trying for democracy. Funny, that&#8217;s just what George Bush said would happen, too bad the new President doesn&#8217;t believe in supporting freedom.</p>
<p> Oh well, here I am, writing a book on your site while ignoring mine. Lucky thing nobody ever accused me of being too smart.<br />
.-= Peter&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://shakeypete.blogspot.com/2009/07/unpaid-dell-software-mechanic.html" rel="nofollow">The Unpaid Dell Software Mechanic</a> =-.</p>
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